I've been thinking about how to make Book VIII relevant to our educational focus, and this commentary from Sunday's times gave me an idea (I'm not a huge fan of the author, and the piece is unsatisfying in several ways, but I think there's something to learn here) http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/05/opinion/sunday/arthur-c-brooks-smelling-liberal-thinking-conservative.html?_r=0
Perhaps Plato is on to something with the idea that we start from the limitations of our inborn/parent instilled natures, and that we can do much (but not everything) with this raw material given well-designed learning protocols that help us think for ourselves. But because our innate/formed natures are not infinitely trainable, our characters and the quality of the city can easily decline.
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